More than Just another Pre-Conference Talk
I was asked
to talk on “Come listen to a Prophet.”
This seems to be a common topic about every 6 months sometime soon
before General Conference. So I know
exactly what is expected of me, but the Lord spoke to me in my heart saying I
should not give the talk which I know is expected, and I should give the talk He
should give me. He told me this is a
time for me to prove that I fear God more than man. Listening to the Voice of God is what we should
really strive for. Sometimes that voice
is delivered through His prophets, sometimes through other unexpected people,
and sometimes it comes directly to us.
God wants us to come unto Him and listen to His Voice. He does not want us to discredit any source
of truth nor to take something as truth just because of the credentials of the
person who said it, but rather He wants us to confirm truth with the Holy Ghost. “And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye shall
know the truth of all things.” I hope you
will seek the Holy Ghost to know the truth of the words I speak here today.
To start
out let us go back to the basics and establish what a prophet is. From the Bible Dictionary, “The work of a
Hebrew prophet was to act as God’s messenger and make known God’s will. The message was usually prefaced with the
words ‘Thus saith Jehovah.’” This is
important because it allows us to differentiate between the opinions of a man
who might be called as a prophet, and the actual words that were revealed from
the Voice of God to be taught to his people.
The scriptures are full of examples of this. I think my favorite is Abinadi saying, “Behold
thus saith the Lord, and thus hath He commanded me, saying, Go forth, and say
unto this people, thus saith the Lord –” (Mosiah 11:20) and he proceeds to call
the people of King Noah to repentance.
And then so as to leave no confusion he concludes, “and thus saith the
Lord and thus hath he commanded me.”
These days we never here these words in conference by the men we sustain
as prophets, seers, and revelators, yet we read it over and over in the
scriptures and especially in the Doctrine and Covenants. So to really get to the Word of God for our
dispensation we need to go back to the scriptures we received through the Prophet
Joseph Smith for the pure doctrines of Christ, as received straight from the
Voice of God. Come to the scriptures and
listen to the prophets as recorded therein, for there we know we are receiving
the word of God for us, and much of it is specifically for our dispensation
written by prophets who saw our day.
What else
qualifies a prophet? A prophet is really
anyone who speaks by the spirit of prophecy.
In Numbers 11:24-29 we read,
“And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the Lord, and
gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round
about the tabernacle. And the Lord came down in a cloud, and spake
unto him and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the
seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them,
they prophesied, and did not cease. But there remained two of the men in
the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other
Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that
were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied
in the camp. And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said,
Elad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. And Joshua the son of Nun,
the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My Lord
Moses, forbid them. And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake?
Would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord
would put his spirit upon them!”
“And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the Lord, and
gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round
about the tabernacle. And the Lord came down in a cloud, and spake
unto him and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the
seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them,
they prophesied, and did not cease. But there remained two of the men in
the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other
Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that
were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied
in the camp. And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said,
Elad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. And Joshua the son of Nun,
the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My Lord
Moses, forbid them. And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake?
Would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord
would put his spirit upon them!”
Moses did not envy the gift of prophesy given to men among the Israelites,
rather he encouraged it. From this we
learn that there can be any number of prophets, and what qualifies them is that
the Lord pours out His Spirit upon them and they have the gift or prophecy. In Words of Mormon we see another example of
there being multiple prophets, we read in verses 16-18,
“And after there had been false prophets, and false preachers and
teachers among the people, and all these having been punished
according to their crimes; and after there having been much contention
and many dissentions away unto the Lamanites, behold, it came to pass
that king Benjamin, with the assistance of the holy prophets who were
among his people—For behold, king Benjamin was a holy man, and he
did reign over his people in righteousness; and there were many holy
men in the land, and they did use much sharpness because of the
stiffneckedness of the people – Wherefore, with the help of these, king
Benjamin, by laboring with all the might of his body and the faculty of
his whole soul, and also the prophets, did once more establish peace
in the land.”
“And after there had been false prophets, and false preachers and
teachers among the people, and all these having been punished
according to their crimes; and after there having been much contention
and many dissentions away unto the Lamanites, behold, it came to pass
that king Benjamin, with the assistance of the holy prophets who were
among his people—For behold, king Benjamin was a holy man, and he
did reign over his people in righteousness; and there were many holy
men in the land, and they did use much sharpness because of the
stiffneckedness of the people – Wherefore, with the help of these, king
Benjamin, by laboring with all the might of his body and the faculty of
his whole soul, and also the prophets, did once more establish peace
in the land.”
King Benjamin as great a man as he was still needed the help of other prophets
in the land. And they worked together to
teach the people. They didn’t contend with
each other for who should have the title of “THE Prophet.” They cared only to teach the people and
establish peace in the land. It did not divide the people rather it united them
in Christ. Today we each have our own
callings and stewardships. We should all
seek for whichever gifts of the Spirit help us in fulfilling our callings
within the church. It is fully within
your rights to seek the gift of prophesy to assist you in your lessons and
sacrament meeting talks. That we all
might come listen to a prophet’s voice EVERY Sunday by attending our regular
meetings would be awesome.
What do
prophets teach and prophesy about? This
is answered in Jacob 7 while he is discussing with an anti-Christ, in verse 10
Jacob asks, “Believest thou the scriptures? And he answered, Yea.” In verse 11 Jacob replies, “Then ye do not
understand them; for they truly testify of Christ. Behold, I say unto you that none of the
prophets have written, nor prophesied, save they have spoken concerning this
Christ.” From this we learn that all
prophets testify of Christ. Nephi
teaches this as well in 2 Nephi 25:26 “And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in
Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to
our prophesies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a
remission of their sins.” From this we
learn that preaching and prophesying is centered on Christ for the purpose that
our children will know to what source they should look for a remission of their
sins. No other subject of prophesy will
save us and our children. Any man
claiming to prophesy who does not plainly and readily teach and testify of
Christ is a false prophet. As we teach
one another we must remember to make Christ the center of our teachings. And as we seek to listen to a prophet’s voice
let us be mindful that Christ is the center of the teachings we receive.
We are
warned many times in the scriptures about these perilous times we live in
today. In 2 Nephi 28 he expounds on many
downfalls he saw in our day. In verse 14
he says, “They shall wear stiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of
pride, and wickedness, and abominations, and whoredoms, they have all gone
astray” (and I’d like to point out you can’t go astray unless you have the
truth to begin with, so he’s talking about us here) continuing, “they have all
gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ;
nevertheless, they are led that in many instances they do err because they are
taught by the precepts of men.” We need
to be continuously seeking to know God’s will for us personally. Then as a humble
follower of Christ we need to be cautious that we are not lead astray by the
precepts of men. In verse 31 of that
same chapter Nephi says, “Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh
flesh his arm, or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts
shall be given by the power of the Holy Ghost.”
If we do not take the things we hear in conference, or sacrament meeting,
or our classes, or wherever, to the Lord to be confirmed by His Spirit we are
putting our trust in the arm of flesh.
We need to seek not just for a prophet to listen to, but for the direct
Voice of God to us. Come listen to the
Voice of God alone in a quiet place with the humility and willingness to follow
what He says FOR YOU.
To truly be
a humble follower of Christ you need to constantly seek the Spirit to help you
discern between truth and error, between true prophets and apostles, and false
prophets and apostles. In 2 Corinthians
11:12-13 we read, “But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion
from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found
even as we. For such are false apostles,
deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.” This was a problem in the New Testament
church that led to the apostasy of the early Christian church. Today we seem to
think we are exempt from such problems.
However God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and just as he
could not take away the agency of those who sought to be false apostles in the
past likewise today he cannot take the agency of those who would lead this
church astray. In Doctrine and Covenants
64:39-40 we are warned, “And Liars and hypocrites shall be proved by them [them
being the inhabitants of Zion], and they who are not apostles and prophets
shall be known. And even the bishop, who
is a judge, and his counselors, if they are not faithful in their stewardships
shall be condemned, and others shall be planted in their stead.” Every dispensation after God calls prophets
there are three categories of people, first, those who listen and follow,
second, those who seem to follow but seek to teach their own ideas as truth and
mingle it with scripture, and third, those who ignore or persecute the prophet
and his followers. This second group who
mingle the teachings of men with scripture is the root cause of apostasy. These are the false apostles and false
prophets. It is NOT the persecution on
the outside that leads to apostacy; it is those on the inside, who corrupt the
doctrines of Christ and lead astray those who are seeking truth, and our
dispensation today is not an exception.
This is why scriptures are always warning us against false prophets. In Mathew 7:15-20, and 3 Nephi 14:15-20 we
are taught,
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but
inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every
good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth
evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit neither can a corrupt
tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit
is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore, by their fruits ye
shall know them.”
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but
inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every
good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth
evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit neither can a corrupt
tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit
is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore, by their fruits ye
shall know them.”
What are the fruit we should look for to tell a false prophet from a true
prophet of God? Galatians 5 teaches,
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery,
fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,
variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envying, murders,
drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before,
as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall
not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance:”
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery,
fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,
variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envying, murders,
drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before,
as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall
not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance:”
Of everything we hear from one who claims to be a prophet we must prayerfully
seek the Spirit to confirm whether it is truth.
And the fruit it produces will show us whether they are of God or of man.
When you do come listen to a prophet, be sure to personally seek the Spirit and
look to the fruit of his teachings to see if he is truly a prophet or if he is
actually a false prophet.
When we listen
to the teachings of any man we need to know how to discern the truth which
comes from God, from the errors which come from the devil. In Moroni 7 we are taught further how to
discern truth from error. In verses 11-13,
16 it reads:
“For behold, a bitter fountain cannot bring forth good water; neither
can a good fountain bring forth bitter water; wherefore, a man being
a servant of the devil cannot follow Christ; and if he follow Christ he
cannot be a servant of the devil. Wherefore, all things which are good
cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil; for the
devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against Him continually, and
inviteth and enticeth to sin, and to do that which is evil continually. But
behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually;
wherefore every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love
God, and to serve him, is inspired of God….For behold, the Spirit of Christ
is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I
show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do
good and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and
gift of Christ; wherefore you may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.”
“For behold, a bitter fountain cannot bring forth good water; neither
can a good fountain bring forth bitter water; wherefore, a man being
a servant of the devil cannot follow Christ; and if he follow Christ he
cannot be a servant of the devil. Wherefore, all things which are good
cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil; for the
devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against Him continually, and
inviteth and enticeth to sin, and to do that which is evil continually. But
behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually;
wherefore every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love
God, and to serve him, is inspired of God….For behold, the Spirit of Christ
is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I
show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do
good and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and
gift of Christ; wherefore you may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.”
These are the tools given to us that we might not be deceived. All the things we are taught by men should be
put to this test. Does it invite us to
believe in Christ? Does it invite us to
do good and serve God? Does the Spirit
of Christ confirm it in our hearts and minds?
We live in uncertain times but there are things we can know of a
certainty if we put it to this test. We can
know what is and isn’t of God. As we
seek to listen to a prophet’s voice let us put everything to this test that we
may know whether it is of God.
Now after
we have tested and confirmed and we know someone spoke as a prophet, we know
their words are true and inspired by the Holy Ghost, because the Holy Ghost has
confirmed it to us personally, we see the fruits that they are good, they inspire
us to believe in Christ, and to serve God, what then? In Doctrine and Covenants 68:4 we read, “And
whatsoever they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost shall be
scripture, shall be the will of the Lord, shall be the mind of the Lord, shall be
the word of the Lord, shall be the Voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto
salvation.” So, we should regard it as
scripture and study it with our scriptures.
Most of all we should use it as a springboard for our personal
revelation to seek out God’s will for us personally. Because just listening to a prophet’s voice
will not save us. We are only saved as
we sacrifice to follow God’s Voice to us whatever source it comes from. Let us not only come listen to a prophet, and
confirm his teachings are true and from God, but then let us faithfully and
humbly act on what we hear the Voice of the Lord speak to our hearts and minds
that we should do.
And now the Lord hath commanded that I, Camilla, say unto you, this ward: Behold, Thus saith the Lord, there are some among my church with whom I am displeased, for they set up the leaders and look unto them for salvation. Behold, this is idolatry, for none can save but Christ. See that this practice is not found among you. Look unto Christ in every thought. Doubt not, fear not. The time soon cometh, saith the Lord, that my arm shall be revealed; see that ye are numbered among the humble followers of Christ, and not the prideful followers of men. And thus hath the Voice of the Lord commanded me that I must say and I must obey.
I bare you
my witness that God lives. That He
speaks to His people who are the humble followers of Christ. His sheep will hear His Voice whatever source
it comes from. Christ is the only name
under heaven by which we can be saved.
Joseph Smith the prophet is the head of our dispensation. The Book of Mormon is the word of God and
scripture for our day. God is the same
yesterday, today, and forever; He never lies.
Therefore, any supposed new revelation if it contradicts established
scripture is the work of a false prophet.
Let us all seek the gift of discernment to know for ourselves what is
truth and then seek the humility to live it.
In the name of Jesus Christ, to whom I will be accountable for the words
I have spoken here today, Amen.
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