If you haven't already read Part 1 I recommend reading it first.
Joseph Smith's Teachings From the 6th Meeting
In
the sixth meeting of the Female Relief Society of Navoo, Joseph Smith
wished to address the sisters, but before doing so "That as his
instructions were intended only for the Society; he requested that a
vote should be taken on those present who were not members to ascertain
whether they should be admitted." (JSP Navoo Relief Society Minute Book p. 34) Some sisters were given a
"no" vote and before proceeding with the meeting a committee was
appointed to inquire about the objections. The committee returned at the end of the meeting to present their results and the objections against one of the women was removed. (ibid p. 41) (This could be examined too
in relation to how "no" votes are handled now, but for that discussion I
will just direct you here as the purpose of this post is only the topic of Relief Society.) Joseph Smith wanting this teaching to only be for the Relief Society sisters, shows both the seriousness of the topic and a certain amount of what was going on in the church at the time as you will see.
In just the previous meeting one sister spoke in tongues, followed by a
sister who interpreted, and one who prophesied, and after the
conclusion of the meeting two sisters administered to one who was sick
and healed her. (ibid p. 32-33) Reports of this meeting came to Joseph
and so he chose to address the sisters at the following meeting. He
taught from Corinthians about the gifts of the Spirit. "He said the
reason of these remarks being made, was, that some little thing was
circulating in the Society, that some persons were not going right in
laying hands on the sick etc. Said if he had common sympathies, would
rejoice that the sick could be healed." (ibid p. 35-36) He continued on
"no matter who believeth; these signs, such as healing the sick,
casting out devils etc. should follow all that believe whether male or female. He asked the Society if they could not see by this sweeping stroke, that wherein they are ordained,
it is the privilege of those set apart to administer in that authority
which is confired on them -- and if the sisters should have faith to
heal the sick, let all hold their tongues, and let everything roll on."
[emphasis added] (ibid p. 36) Today in the Ordain Women
movement women are only asking for what Joseph Smith gave them in the
first place, and they are being excommunicated for doing so. Joseph Smith continued to teach the sisters, "Respecting the female laying on hands, he remarked, there could be no devil in it if God gave His sanction by healing -- that there could be no more sin in any female laying hands on the sick than with wetting the face with water -- that it is no sin for anybody to do it that has faith, or if the sick has faith to be healed by the administration." (ibid p. 36) He cautioned the sisters about speaking in tongues "If any have a matter to reveal let it be in your own tongue. Do not indulge too much in the gift of tongues, or the devil will take advantage of the innocent. You may speak in tongues for your comfort but I lay this down for a rule that if any thing is taught by the gift of tongues it is not to be received for doctrine." (ibid p. 40-41) Joseph Smith taught the sisters in his day they had the same power to do the the same things as the men, because these were Spiritual Gifts that all who believe have access to. And the spiritual gifts he spoke of were those found in the scriptures namely tongues, the interpretation of tongues, prophesy, knowledge, wisdom, healing, and being healed.
He next taught them about maintaining their proper place and order within their Society. "President Smith continued by speaking of the difficulties he had to surmount ever since the commencement of the work in consequence of aspiring men 'big great Elders' as he called them, who had caused him much trouble, whom he had taught in private counsel and they would go forth into the world and proclaim the things he had taught them; as their own revelations -- Said the same aspiring disposition will be in this Society, and must be guarded against -- that every person should stand and act in the place appointed, and thus sanctify the Society and get it pure" He then spoke about not having long and not having many opportunities to teach them, "He spoke of delivering the keys to this Society and to the church." [emphasis added] (ibid p.37) If Emma and her counselors held keys as the leaders of the Relief Society they had just as much a claim to the continued line of authority as did the 12 apostles according to this quote. And in the context of the church being plagued with aspiring men who had their own goals and not the welfare of the church in mind, the claim of these three sisters' authority might even be more legitimate. "He said if one member becomes corrupt and you know it; you must immediately put it away. The sympathies of the heads of the church have induced them to bare with those that were corrupt; in consequence of which all become contaminated --" (ibid p. 38) No wonder Emma chose not to go west following after men her own husband admitted were corrupt and contaminated. This teaching to the sisters of the church shows that the leaders of the church were already embarking on the road to apostasy, and not only was it very possible for the church to be led astray it was something to very carefully be guarded against.
Joseph Smith also taught of the urgency and importance of doing good and seeking a relationship with God. "If you do right, no danger of going too fast: he said he did not care how fast we run in the path of virtue. Resist evil and there is no danger." When after speaking of their gift for charity some quote often used in the church he continues with things you will never hear at church, "if you live up to your privilege, angels can not be restrained from being your associates -- females if they are pure and innocent can come into the presence of God; you must be innocent or you cannot come up before God. If we would come before God let us be pure ourselves. The Devil has great power -- he will so transform things as to make one gape at those who are doing the will of God -- you need not be tearing for their deeds, but let the weight of innocence be felt; which is more mighty than a millstone hung about the neck. Not war, not jangle, not contradiction, but meekness, love, purity, these are the things that should magnify us. ... iniquity must be purged out -- then the veil will be rent and the blessings of heaven will flow down." (ibid p. 38) Joseph Smith believed it was possible and wanted the sisters to come into the literal presence of God in this life. It was something for them to strive for and seek.
Part 3 will contrast these teachings with what the LDS church teaches today.
As all things relate to each other, this is the tale of my spiritual, emotional, and psychological healing as I seek greater knowledge, light, and truth. There are many different aspects to this journey, yet they cannot be separated from one another as all things connect and influence the others.
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Sunday, April 10, 2016
Thursday, April 7, 2016
The Truth about Relief Society Part 1: The Founding and Origional Organization
My experience that prompted this post
You never know how little authority women in the church have till you are called to a position in which you think you can do something meaningful, just to find out you can't even plan a single topic without permission from a man. We take such pride in saying Relief Society is the oldest women's organization in the world, but how is it a women's organization if we have to get permission from a man who isn't part of said organization to do anything within it? To me this doesn't make any sense at all. I wouldn't mind if women never get the priesthood, but can we at least get control over our own organization again? The High Priests, and Elders can organize their own activities, extend their own callings and fulfill their responsibilities all on their own. Why should the women need the oversight and supervision of the Bishop to do the same things? We are treated not like equals but like children. We don't want the priesthood so we can be Bishops, or Elders (at least most that I know of). Men can have those callings, we just want the freedom to do what we like within our own organization. In attempting to plan a gathering outside of normal Sunday services I have to get permission for the topic AND the teacher of the topic. Apparently this control over the women has been going on for well over 60 years.
So what was Relief Society when it was founded? Let's look at what Relief Society was when organized by Joseph Smith. With the Joseph Smith Papers we can go straight to the source and read about the organization of Relief Society straigh from their own meeting minutes:
"If any Officers are wanted to carry out the designs of the Institution, let them be appointed and set apart, as Deacons, Teachers, etc. are among us. . . .
You never know how little authority women in the church have till you are called to a position in which you think you can do something meaningful, just to find out you can't even plan a single topic without permission from a man. We take such pride in saying Relief Society is the oldest women's organization in the world, but how is it a women's organization if we have to get permission from a man who isn't part of said organization to do anything within it? To me this doesn't make any sense at all. I wouldn't mind if women never get the priesthood, but can we at least get control over our own organization again? The High Priests, and Elders can organize their own activities, extend their own callings and fulfill their responsibilities all on their own. Why should the women need the oversight and supervision of the Bishop to do the same things? We are treated not like equals but like children. We don't want the priesthood so we can be Bishops, or Elders (at least most that I know of). Men can have those callings, we just want the freedom to do what we like within our own organization. In attempting to plan a gathering outside of normal Sunday services I have to get permission for the topic AND the teacher of the topic. Apparently this control over the women has been going on for well over 60 years.
So what was Relief Society when it was founded? Let's look at what Relief Society was when organized by Joseph Smith. With the Joseph Smith Papers we can go straight to the source and read about the organization of Relief Society straigh from their own meeting minutes:
"President Smith further remarked that an organization to show them how to go to work would be sufficient. He proposed that the Sisters choose a presiding officer to preside over them, and let the presiding officer choose two counselors to assist in the duties of her office -- that he would ordain them to preside over the Society -- and let them preside just as the Presidency presides over the church and if they need instruction -- ask him, he will give it from time to time." [emphasis added] (JSP Nauvoo Relief Society Minute Book p.7-8)
Notice the women choose the leader, and she chooses counselors, all Joseph did is propose the organization and ordain the women they chose to lead them. They can ask him for instruction but he did not mandate anything in the form of policies or anything else, a Constitution was all up to them to create for themselves.
"If any Officers are wanted to carry out the designs of the Institution, let them be appointed and set apart, as Deacons, Teachers, etc. are among us. . . .
"He then suggested the propriety of electing a Presidency to continue in office during good behavior, or so long as they shall continue to fill the office with dignity etc. like the first Presidency of the Church.
"Motioned by Sister Whitney and seconded by Sister Packard that Mrs. Emma Smith be chosen President -- Passed unanimously --" (ibid p.8)
The ONLY role of the priesthood in Relief Society was to ordain the women to offices within the Society, not even to propose or vote on who those sisters should be!!! Joseph Smith did not call Emma to be the first President of Relief Society, the sisters did by common consent. Relief Society had it's own funds, and it's own treasurer, and was not dependent on the Church for it's financial means to carry out it's purposes. Joseph Smith gave the first donation of $5, and after the minutes of each meeting a record was kept of donations including who gave and the amount. The men present for the initial organization and naming of the Society withdrew before the choice of secretaries and treasurer were made. (ibid p. 13)
Sisters who wanted to join the Female Relief Society of Navoo had to apply and their membership be voted on by common conent of those who already belonged (this is an action at the begining of each meeting, the sustaining of new members), just as men admitted to the priesthood are sustained by common consent then and still today. Every meeting (except one when Joseph Smith thought they were growing too fast) started with the sustaining of new members, and a list of those who were added to the Society. Early meetings talked about the importance of avoiding evil, and in the third meeting Joseph Smith said, "none should be received into the Society but those who were worthy -- proposed that the Society go into a close examination of every candidate." (ibid p. 22) Much of this responsibility fell to Emma.
What has Changed?
Today the men decide who will be in various positions in Relief Society and the men decide how much money from church funds can be used by the Relief Society, the men decide what topics we can teach and when and who can teach them. Voting on new members who wish to join has been done away now and any female member of the church over the age of 18 is automatically a member of Reilief Society. We don't make our own lessons, and we don't have our own funds to administer relief with. Really we don't do any administering relief any more. We do some service to those who need it from time to time, but most of our ability to give relief has been crippled by the church burocracy (speaking from my own experience and observation). We instead create our own new organizations (like the Liahona Children's Foundation) separate from the church when we find a need of relief because we can't give relief in Relief Society any more.
Continue to Part 2
Sisters who wanted to join the Female Relief Society of Navoo had to apply and their membership be voted on by common conent of those who already belonged (this is an action at the begining of each meeting, the sustaining of new members), just as men admitted to the priesthood are sustained by common consent then and still today. Every meeting (except one when Joseph Smith thought they were growing too fast) started with the sustaining of new members, and a list of those who were added to the Society. Early meetings talked about the importance of avoiding evil, and in the third meeting Joseph Smith said, "none should be received into the Society but those who were worthy -- proposed that the Society go into a close examination of every candidate." (ibid p. 22) Much of this responsibility fell to Emma.
What has Changed?
Today the men decide who will be in various positions in Relief Society and the men decide how much money from church funds can be used by the Relief Society, the men decide what topics we can teach and when and who can teach them. Voting on new members who wish to join has been done away now and any female member of the church over the age of 18 is automatically a member of Reilief Society. We don't make our own lessons, and we don't have our own funds to administer relief with. Really we don't do any administering relief any more. We do some service to those who need it from time to time, but most of our ability to give relief has been crippled by the church burocracy (speaking from my own experience and observation). We instead create our own new organizations (like the Liahona Children's Foundation) separate from the church when we find a need of relief because we can't give relief in Relief Society any more.
Continue to Part 2
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